Showing posts with label RR Lyrae star. Show all posts
Showing posts with label RR Lyrae star. Show all posts

Monday, November 12, 2012

Unlisted RR Lyrae type ab - KIC 1570352

UKIRT image showing direction (green) of RR Lyrae from target star by Kian Jek

Planet Hunters forum Talk members Dolorous EDD and Zoo3hans flagged a background RR Lyrae type ab star that was contaminating the the Kepler light curve for star KIC 1570349 below:


zoo3hans:
The LC shows massive variation through the different quarters, so I assume it's contamination. It could be a background RR_Lyrae type star.

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Kian Jek:
 
kianjin
Yes indeed Hans, it's very likely contamination from a BG RRLab. Here's the phased curve which matches the profile of an RRLab in period but the amplitude is too low - it should be at least 80% or more at the peak:


APOs show the flux centroid shifting during the variation.


These can be traced to the nearby star KIC 1570352, a magnitude 18.4 star. There isn't much in the way of stellar characteristics known, but the g-r value of 0.175 suggests a Type AF star, with a Teff around 7000K, which makes it just right for an RRLab.




 Chris Lintott:
zookeeper (moderator)
 
I've been in touch with Robert Szabo, our resident guru for such things, and he confirms this is a new discovery of a RRLyr of type ab - fabulous stuff and congratulations to all involved.

You can follow the discussion on this star at Planet Hunters forum Talk here.

Sunday, October 28, 2012

Unlisted RR Lyrae type ab with Blahzko Modulations - KIC 3448777


KIC 34487- The Kepler current release data for quarters 12 and 13 shows Blahzko modulations in the time plot.

A 1901 Astrophysical Journal paper by Pickering provides a list of sixty four new variables, one of which — a star in the constellation Lyra — was found using the method above on a plate from July 13, 1899. Examination of this plate by one of Pickering’s staff, Williamina Fleming, revealed a short-period, high amplitude star (aavso.org). In nine years, she (Fleming) catalogued more than 10,000 stars. During her work, she discovered 59 gaseous nebulae, over 310 variable stars, and 10 novae. In 1907, she published a list of 222 variable stars she had discovered (wikipedia).
RR Lyrae variables are periodic variable stars, commonly found in globular clusters, and often used as standard candles to measure galactic distances.” It is roughly estimated that out of the 200 billion stars in our Milky Way galaxy only 85,000 may be RR Lyrae stars. “They are extensively used in globular cluster studies, and also used to study chemical properties of older stars.” (wikipedia) More on RR Lyrae stars at earthsky.org.
The Kepler spacecraft is monitoring a section of our galaxy that consists of approximately 150,000 stars. In a science paper J.M. Benkő et al dated 22 July 2010, the Kepler science team has identified only 29 of them as RR Lyrae stars, and of those only 14 exhibit Blazhko modulations.

It now appears that Planet Hunters has found another RR Lyrae star with Blazhko modulation making a total of 15 with Blazhko modulation.

Q12/13 phased curve for KIC 3448777


UKIRT image of KIC 3448777 at center


Daryll LaCourse:
That is one heck of a light curve! Below are the Short and Long cadence masks taken from the target pixel files for Q12. Looks like they went with a single-pixel optimal aperture centered around coordinate y981x197:
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Full View

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KIC 3448777 is an unlisted RR Lyrae type ab star that was first identified indirectly by Planet Hunters forum Talk member Thomas Lee Jacobs in the second quarter of 2011 as a nearby contaminator of the light curve for KIC  3448787 shown below:


The phased curve for the contaminated light curve displayed the characteristics for a RRL star which was further analyzed and confirmed by forum Talk member and co-discoverer Kian Jek. Here are some excerpts from the forum Talk thread:

Tom128 (Thomas Lee Jacobs)
Reminds one of an RR Lyrae pattern. Not listed if it is.



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about 1 year ago
kianjin (Kian Jek)
Amplitude is too low to be an RR Lyrae type AB, but could be an RRL type C. Right spectral class. Ragged nature of light curve however casts some doubt and suggests possible contamination but background field looks clear.

UPDATE: Oh - I know why the light curve is so crappy and not because of contamination - Q2 was imaged by mod.out 2.3 and therefore a victim of the #fp16 glitch!

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about 1 year ago
Tom128
Very interesting Kianjin. Does that mean the RR Lyrae-like pattern is a product of the glitch as well ?

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about 1 year ago
kianjin
No, I was pretty sure the RRL pattern is in the star itself, just masked by errors in photometry and/or postprocessing. Here's how the undetrended but Kepler processed light curve looks like, Q1 to Q3:



It's strange that Q1 doesn't show any pulsations. Q2 is definitely distorted by the fp16 problem, but even Q3 has some funky distortions of its own.
So what I did was to take the raw flux from Q3 alone, detrended it myself and here's what I got - an RRL-like light curve complete with Blazhko modulation!



I'm pretty sure this is what the star should look like, and here's the final phased waveform:



I would wager a guess that it's an RR Lyrae type C. That's because the amplitude of the pulsations is less than 1%, although it has all the other characteristics, spectral class, Blazhko modulation of typical RR Lyraes.
So in the end, you were right, Tom, well done, and a great find!

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about 1 year ago
Tom128
Outstanding analysis Kianjin and we netted an unlisted one as well! KID 3448787
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about 1 year ago
zookeeper (moderator) (Chris Linttot)

Just a quick note to say I've emailed a friend who is one of the authors on the Blenko list : http://arxiv.org/abs/1007.3928 - I'll report back if I get any response.

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about 1 year ago
zookeeper (moderator)
Good news! I've heard back from our friends in the Kepler team, and this star is interesting and indeed new to them, so this is another #discovery for Planet Hunters! Congratulations, Tom128 for spotting it, and Klanjin for the analysis. They're going to do a detailed analysis - indeed, they've already started - and keep us informed. Obviously if it makes a paper then full credit will go to you two.

Some extra details; the reason that the variation appears and disappears between quarters might be because it's a background star; this would explain the small amplitude and if the processing used on different quarters included different parts of the image then that would explain why it comes and goes.
They also say "Any new RRLs - especially the modulated ones - are of great value and very much appreciated! Kepler provides excellent light curves and delivers surprising new discoveries on #RRLyrae stars." so do tag anything you find.

As Robert Szabo, one of the scientists says : 'Congratulations to this precious discovery'.

You can follow this star on the forum Talk thread here.

Saturday, October 20, 2012

Unlisted RR Lyrae Type C - KIC 2831097


Forum Talk member cappella has identified a possible unlisted RR Lyrae type C star.

Kian Jek:



Could this be an RRc? There is a GO (Kepler Guest Observer program) designation for it, perhaps someone at KASC is already looking at this. But still, Type A subgiant, low metallicity, period 0.2 to 0.5d, amplitude of +/- 10%, slightly sinusoidal profile. For comparison this is the phased plot for KIC 5520878, a known RRc:



Your can follow this star here.

Tuesday, July 31, 2012

KIC 5558387 Possible Unlisted RR Lyrae Star at Planet Hunters

This Kepler light curve for star KID 5558379 is being contaminated  by an unlisted background RR Lyrae ( BG RRL) star. The phased curve cue for a possible RRL is shown below:


In this case, the star does not completely own its phased curve and is being contaminated from the BG RRL that is star KIC  5558387. Here is Kian Jek's comment:

"The APOs are significant, 5 and -10 millipixels, and the vector (brightening) points unambiguously to #3 KIC 5558387 as the source of the RRL-like pulsations. Unfortunately we don't know much about this star."

More information on the Talk thread here.

Sunday, July 22, 2012

KIC 3448777 Unlisted RR Lyrae Star at Planet Hunters


Ten months ago Planet Hunters Talk members found this interesting light curve for KIC 3448787 (APH23036769) which was subsequently analyzed and found to be contaminated by an unlisted RR Lyrae star with blazhko modulation. 



Phased curve showing pattern for RR Lyrae below.


 Here is the graph showing the blazhko modulation:


Here is what Chris Lintott (Zookeeper) posted back then:
 
Good news! I've heard back from our friends in the Kepler team, and this star is interesting and indeed new to them, so this is another #discovery for Planet Hunters! Congratulations, Tom128 (Tom Jacobs) for spotting it, and Kianjin (Kian Jek) for the analysis. They're going to do a detailed analysis - indeed, they've already started - and keep us informed. Obviously if it makes a paper then full credit will go to you two.

Some extra details; the reason that the variation appears and disappears between quarters might be because it's a background star; this would explain the small amplitude and if the processing used on different quarters included different parts of the image then that would explain why it comes and goes. They also say "Any new RRLs - especially the modulated ones - are of great value and very much appreciated! Kepler provides excellent light curves and delivers surprising new discoveries on #RRLyrae stars." so do tag anything you find.

As Robert Szabo, one of the scientists says : 'Congratulations to this precious discovery'.


Most likely star #4, KIC 3448777 and less likely star #5, KIC 3448767 are suspected to be the unlisted RR Lyrae star. Kian charted the APO vector due to the contamination which points in the direction of both stars.

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A PyKE analysis for the Kepler data, put together by Planet Hunters Daryll Lacourse, is shown below. You can see the Blazhko modulation in the upper right of the chart. Click here for a full view.


The good news is that Kepler has targeted star #4, KIC 3448777 and is studying it now.

Click here to read the Talk thread.
 




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